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and there is a difference between someone supporting the war and enjoying seeing people die.
How the hell is enjoying people get killed and supporting the war not the same thing?
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How the hell is enjoying people get killed and supporting the war not the same thing?
Uhh, ever hear of a the doctrine of "just war" - the people who enter into war under this doctrine most certainly DO NOT enjoy people getting killed but they do support war efforts for various reasons.

Read up: Just War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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People support the war for many reasons. I doubt any of them are because they want to kill people. There are also rules and guidelines that must be followed during times of war. It's not just all out kill until one man stands. I mean you could drop a bomb but once the smoke clears they'll be hell to pay. The Geneva convention has regulations in place to prevent excessive use of force as well as various strick policies regarding the human treatment of POW and innocent civilians.

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So, wait, is Laurie a touch conservative now or something?

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Anton it must be said again.... Please Grow UP!!!


There are lots of people in this thread offering different views that can be supported with fact.. but you clearly are not one of them..
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Uhh, ever hear of a the doctrine of "just war" - the people who enter into war under this doctrine most certainly DO NOT enjoy people getting killed but they do support war efforts for various reasons.

Read up: Just War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I must say I commend you Laurie for being a smart and educated woman who can see through the bias media.
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"The Just War Theory was asserted as authoritative Catholic Church..."

Well no wonder. I am not Catholic, I never went to church, a religious school, or read the bible. So I am completely not surprised that I didn't know that the not only is there a bible, but also a step-by-step directions of how to fight a war.

lol, thank god I am not religious.
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It's about respecting someone else's life and ideas as much as you respect your own.
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"The Just War Theory was asserted as authoritative Catholic Church..."

Well no wonder. I am not Catholic, I never went to church, a religious school, or read the bible. So I am completely not surprised that I didn't know that the not only is there a bible, but also a step-by-step directions of how to fight a war.

lol, thank god I am not religious.
Keep reading and note the "international policy makers" and the phrase "OR POLITICAL JUSTICE"

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"Just War theory is a doctrine of military ethics of Catholic origin[1][2] studied by moral theologians, ethicists and international policy makers which holds that a conflict can and ought to meet the criteria of philosophical, religious or political justice, provided it follows certain conditions."
Regardless of it's history, such there is a way that people can support a war and not enjoy people being killed.

It's like saying "Oh Halloween is a pagan holiday, therefore you have to be a pagan to know about/celebrate it" Just has Halloween has evolved from its pagan roots, so has the idea of a "just war"

Also, I'd like to redirect you to the good point Cez brought up regarding the Genva Conventions - I would suggest you read up on that as well.
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It's about respecting someone else's life and ideas as much as you respect your.
And you don't have to be Catholic to do that!
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I must say I commend you Laurie for being a smart and educated woman who can see through the bias media.
lol, no offense but that sounds like your kinda surprised there are such things as intelligent women.
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lol, no offense but that sounds like your kinda surprised there are such things as intelligent women.
I'm giving her a compliment about her point of view of politics, not degrading women!
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