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No dispute resolution anymore either?

So now when some idiot negs me because he didnt get his item 4 days after he paid you cant do anything abou it? ( I had a guy threaten to do that after 4 days when he paid late)

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I dont get, are they trying to destroy themselves?

Im suprised the uproar created by this didnt end these stupid changes before they started
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ok, I am confused too. I have had one negative in the last 12 months and that was as a buyer ( I paid the day after winning and complained because the seller took 3 weeks to ship my items- I get a neg for that?!?) and I have had no neutrals, so how is it that my feedback goes from a 99.7 to a 97.5???
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I feel bad for sellers, that's some pretty ridiculous shit.

Although about the shipping charges, and having to get a 4.5, I find it annoying when someone is charging 10 bucks to ship to the states and 35 to ship to Canada, when the actual cost is ~$15. I understand you want to recover costs, but that kind of overcharge is ridiculous.
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I realize this isn't going to be a very popular opinion but I don't see what the big deal is. No one pays that much attention to feedback anyways and all the sellers will be subject to the same psycho buyers so it's not like anyone is at some big disadvantage. Don't let buyers rip you off and it shouldn't be a big deal. Just let 'em neg you if it comes to that. All the other sellers are getting equally screwed, right?

As far as revoking people's Powerseller status based on feedback, well, that's BS. If they're going to change the feedback system to give buyers the advantage then they need to take that into account and lower their standards a little too.
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I feel bad for sellers, that's some pretty ridiculous shit.

Although about the shipping charges, and having to get a 4.5, I find it annoying when someone is charging 10 bucks to ship to the states and 35 to ship to Canada, when the actual cost is ~$15. I understand you want to recover costs, but that kind of overcharge is ridiculous.
That is not correct if the seller ships via Express to protect themselves through a paypal payment.
Flat Rate Express envelope is 22.00 approximately to ship to Canada.
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That is not correct if the seller ships via Express to protect themselves through a paypal payment.
Flat Rate Express envelope is 22.00 approximately to ship to Canada.
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I just know most of the times i get a pair of jeans the postage on the package is usually between 12 and 18
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That is not correct if the seller ships via Express to protect themselves through a paypal payment.
Flat Rate Express envelope is 22.00 approximately to ship to Canada.
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MGoose--EXPRESS is the only trackable method, Priority is now about $9.95 flat rate to Canada and its NOT trackable. Express is now more than $22 since postage rates went up too
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The new ebay feedback system isn't perfect, but it's way better than the old system.

Here's the thing - Sellers right now are feeling butt-hurt because they're seeing their near-100% feedback scores fall somewhere into the high to mid 90s, and fear that they'll be perceived as disreputable sellers.

What they're not taking into account, is that their new score will be weighted against everybody else's score! So instead of having unrealistic expectations of sellers feedback purity, we'll actually have a sensible gauge by which we'll be able to evaluate sellers.

And - most importantly - buyers won't feel shy about letting their thoughts be known for fear of retaliation.

Just recently, I bought a fake from an ebayer who was aggressively hawking fakes and bullying buyers into leaving positive feedback, or retracted feedback. Because I cared more about preserving the integrity of my account than getting justice I declined to leave any feedback at all.

The guy in question had 100% positive feedback with over 200 transactions - selling nothing but fake Diesel & G-Star jackets. Now, if you saw an account like that you'd probably think (like I did), "Hey, this guy's got plenty of good rep. I'll just bid with confidence."

But, now that the new feedback rules have been instated on ebay, he's been fed a shitstorm of negative feedbacks. It's only a matter of time before his account is rendered useless and he'll have to fold shop, or simply accept that nobody is willing to pay more fake prices for his fakes.

Think about the 3rd party sellers on Amazon and other shopping aggregate sites like BizRate. Do you expect 100% positive reviews? Of course you don't. If a seller has 4.5 out of 5 stars you just presume that they're on the up and up. The same mentality will soon apply to ebay.

So yeah, some people will have more negs, but under the new regime, the power of negative feedback is somewhat diluted.

The bottom line is that malicious sellers won't be able to survive under the new system, and 100% will eventually cease to be a seller's ideal.
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I feel bad for sellers, that's some pretty ridiculous shit.

Although about the shipping charges, and having to get a 4.5, I find it annoying when someone is charging 10 bucks to ship to the states and 35 to ship to Canada, when the actual cost is ~$15. I understand you want to recover costs, but that kind of overcharge is ridiculous.
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Just recently, I bought a fake from an ebayer who was aggressively hawking fakes and bullying buyers into leaving positive feedback, or retracted feedback. Because I cared more about preserving the integrity of my account than getting justice I declined to leave any feedback at all.
Thats why you should have 1 account for buying and 1 for selling. Than you can leave what ever feedback you think is right.



Lets say that if a buyer leaves me a neg because they "think" I sell fakes that it is NOT right and NOT fair to the seller. I should be able to warn the eBay community that the buyer "thinks" with out looking at the facts.

Also what happens when I get scammed by a buyer using a stolen CC? I can't neg them to warn other sellers that this buyer is going to rip them off? So now the buyer can just scam the hell out of a bunch of sellers and they will not know any better until they get a chargeback! Sounds like BS to me!

International buyer doesn't want to pay customs fees and negs me? eBay won't remove this feedback and I can't neg them back???? wtf! This is not right. I am running a legit business I will not commit a crime to complete a transaction!

Buyer leaves neg w/ out ever contacting me to try and fix a problem???? WTH how can you leave a neg with out even giving the seller a chance to fix the problem.


Buyers and people who don't sell don't really have enough knowledge on this subject to say it is a good or bad idea. You do not know the crap that we have to put up with on a daily basis. I get people bidding on my auctions just to tie up my items because they have some grudge against me making money. These people have nothing better to do than hurt someone who is trying to run an honest and legit business. They should NOT be allowed to run around unchecked.

Its easy to say this is a great idea when you have little to no experience selling on eBay.
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I agree with treasurehoard about opening separate accounts for buying and selling. My husband did that a long time ago and I should have. I have often resisted leaving negatives as a buyer b/c of fear that it would negatively impact my feedback as a seller. I am going to keep my current account for selling and open a new account to buy!! I may buy from treaurehoard first (so watch out for the buyer with no feedback!!!!!). Seriously I should have separated my account a long long time ago.
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