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advan031 · : 09-22-2007, 12:44 AM

I think it's pretty simple...if you are asked that you are done and stop then you should stop. If you have more than one question then write him a damn email...lol

codese7en · : 09-22-2007, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CUTUP

+1 for you yet again

I have just one question for anyone who believes force should never be used, and that tasering and any form of physical contact is "excessive"

What would you do then?

It seems that the majority of people who ALWAYS are the first to respond to these threads screaming bloody murder, and comparing people to fascists and hitler never have an answer to the question at hand

What would you do if the guy was acting off the wall on your property and around your kids, would you just politley keep asking him to leave?, even if he refused and started acting rowdy?

What if he never really hit you but made motions like he was going to, are you saying you would tell the police at the scene to " please dont taze/hurt him in any way, I am sure if you keep asking him nicely he will eventually leave"

These same people complain when a tazer is not used and the offender is carried away by more then one officer. I wonder how you would all feel if the guy was left alone to rant and rave and then pulled a gun out and shot innocent people.

I bet you people would be the first to cry about how pathetic law enforcement is and how they should have dragged the man out when he first started going off the deep end.

I know not all situations require force, and I know some cops do abuse their power. But if everyone could just chill and put themselves in the officers shoes sometimes, maybe they would have a better understanding of the situation.

agreed 100%.

it's really a catch 22 for the officers, but they did what they had to do. ya know... that whole "duty" thing that some of you are totally unfamiliar with.

loveswatching · : 09-22-2007, 04:00 AM

I am glad i was not the one who posted this as i cannot handle half of the absurd replies on this thread.

I agree the dude was acting it up as a publicity stunt but whatever happened to free speech?

Cutup:
Bro thats a great speech but none of the scenarios you presented were in line with what happened with this college student. Punishment should fit the crime and in this case it was blown out of proportion.

If this kid in the same tone would have praised Kerry then nothing would have happened BUT since he asked some in your face questions he gets tazed

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These same people complain when a tazer is not used and the offender is carried away by more then one officer. I wonder how you would all feel if the guy was left alone to rant and rave and then pulled a gun out and shot innocent people.

So now we should start tazing everyone who gets a little loud just incase he doesnt have gun. Is that the suggestion here?

Why not put some security screening like they have in high schools nowdays and there goes your justification down the drain.

codese7en · : 09-22-2007, 04:09 AM

^^ so what would you have done if you were one of those campus police officers?

loveswatching · : 09-22-2007, 04:10 AM

Police officer job was providing security, was his questions physically threatening to the senator?

Infinite42 · : 09-22-2007, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by loveswatching

Police officer job was providing security, was his questions physically threatening to the senator?

No. Not at all. So would you have just let the disruption continue endlessly?

loveswatching · : 09-22-2007, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Infinite42

No. Not at all. So would you have just let the disruption continue endlessly?

Are you suggesting that cops should start tazing every citizen who asks unpleasant questions to politicians?

So now politicians need to come with their own entourage of people who do nothing but kiss their ass so these incidents never occur in the future.

Infinite42 · : 09-22-2007, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by loveswatching

Are you suggesting that cops should start tazing every citizen who asks unpleasant questions to politicians?

So now politicians need to come with their own entourage of people who do nothing but kiss their ass so these incidents never occur in the future.

I asked you a question. I suggested nothing of the sort. To answer your question, no. Now can you answer mine?

Tsukasa · : 09-22-2007, 04:16 AM

WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT SOME DOUCHE GETTING TAZED!

That is all.

codese7en · : 09-22-2007, 04:16 AM

so basically it would have been best for the officers to just sit there with their thumb up their asses until the guy was done ranting?

Infinite42 · : 09-22-2007, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsukasa

WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT SOME DOUCHE GETTING TAZED!

That is all.

I don't care about him one bit. However, I am interested in finding out some of the reasons a couple members feel the way they do about the situation.

Tsukasa · : 09-22-2007, 04:28 AM

Well maybe because they were never spanked when they acted up as a child.

Just to add, how does one isolated situation where people are considering this "excessive force" mean the break down of freedom of speech, police brutality and whatever the fuck was also mentioned.

loveswatching · : 09-22-2007, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Infinite42

No. Not at all. So would you have just let the disruption continue endlessly?

I will let Kerry answer it for me

"In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way," Kerry said in a statement. "I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention. I asked the police to allow me to answer the question and was in the process of responding when he was taken into custody."

Political Radar: Kerry Condemns Heckler Arrest

Infinite42 · : 09-22-2007, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsukasa

Just to add, how does one isolated situation where people are considering this "excessive force" mean the break down of freedom of speech, police brutality and whatever the fuck was also mentioned.

+1. This question should NOT be lost in the shuffle. I'd LOVE to hear explanations of this sentiment. Explanations that are actually well-thought out. Unfortunately, I think it's probably not going to happen.

Infinite42 · : 09-22-2007, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by loveswatching

I will let Kerry answer it for me

"In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way," Kerry said in a statement. "I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention. I asked the police to allow me to answer the question and was in the process of responding when he was taken into custody."

Political Radar: Kerry Condemns Heckler Arrest

That's John Kerry making the politically-correct statement about it that he has to make. And it's actually a great answer.

My question might have been ambiguous, but its intent was to echo codese7en's question of how you would react - but from the officers' perspective, not Kerry's.

sultrysiren · : 09-22-2007, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Infinite42

I asked you a question. I suggested nothing of the sort. To answer your question, no. Now can you answer mine?

You will never get an answer. I have already tried.