Please ID this wash and what is the condition (those rips comes with wash???). Seller claims they are like new. Thanks!

Rattle your cage ...

doesn't exactly look like new, but probably in good condition, that rip on the front left pocket is original afaik. Don't like it that much though, pretty standard/boring.

you know how this works.

Please ID and authenticate this pair. TIA

^Dirty Dude

^What he said, with washed off dirt.

True. Terrible wash.

Originally Posted by vonWitzleben

Very nice wash!

Does anyone have experience with stretch factor on Dior raw silver selvadge? Maybe compared to standard MIJ raws.

Just saw this ^^ I've read (I think on suFu) that the quality is sub-par compared to the MIJ and should only be copped at discount prices

~Dave

hey everyone...its been a while since I've been on here, but had a quick question. What is a good price for a pair of ~1 month worn raw indigo MIJ 19cms used? Kind of out of the loop lately. Thanks!

200 tops. I certainly wouldn't pay more.

If they've seen very hard everyday-wear or have been even washed already, even 200 might be too much. Depends on your location and the size as well, though.

question, how much does mij raw really stretch? taking that into consideration, should I size down from my thanaz size?

No way you can size down from your Thanaz size for MIJ raws. If you are built slim around waist and hips you can stay with your Thanaz size. Best bet is to stay your biggest Thanaz size, for older washes that refers to your Thanaz 71B size. But the Dior will still be tighter around the waist and hip area.

ok, I guess the dior measurements are tricky. I read in a couple other forums that they stretch big time.

They do stretch a lot (not as much as APCs though lol). But initially they are much tighter than e.g. Thanaz in the same size (as far as I remember as its a long time since I bought some Thanaz).

And to answer your initial question about sizing and stretching:

Dior MIJ raw waist measurement new and unstretched is around tag size plus 2 and stretches around one to 1.5 inches with wear. Smaller sizes stretch less than bigger ones as there is less material to stretch and the harder they are worn and the tighter they are initially the more they stretch.

E.g. a size 29 measures approximately 31 inches new and unstreched and will stretch out to around 32 inches, a tad more probabrly but less than half an inch.

What about mii, would I be able to do a 27? since they stretch more and are not as slim as mij to begin with.

And you wear 28 in Thanaz?

yea

I dont think that it will work. Maybe if your Thanaz are huge in the waist/hip and comfy in the thighs, but even then I dont think it will work out well. I dont think that MIIs stretch sooo much more than MIJs but dont quote me on that one as I have never owned any MII raws.

The MII cut is a bit different though and the legs are rather straight from the knee down but the upper block is NOT more relaxed, only with smaller backpockets and a lower rise. So if your Thanaz are fitted in the thighs in a size 28 you will probarbly get a problem with the MII raw fitting your thighs in the size 27.

MiI is tighter in the waist than MiJ. MiJ is tighter in the calves.

Does anyone have a thigh measurement for a size 27 MIJ raw? I currently own size 28 Black Mij raw and they are falling off without a belt in the waist area. Should I get a size 27? I am only scared of it being tight in the thigh and my thigh measures 19-20inches around. Dont really want a tight look but a slim one.

Hopefully I can figure this out soon enough to know which size to get. If needed I can get pics of a fit pic maybe later on today. But if anyone knows this please tell.

Thigh should be a bit more than 18" around

Wait, do you mean I should have around 18 inches on the thigh area?

If you measure the thigh correctly (Blue in Green method) it should come out to about 27cm or 10.5inch on a sz28, probably even a little more. So I'd think a size 27 should be around 10 inch, not more. Measuring around is pointless.